Hello Again!
As per another request, I shall try to use a spare W150D/SP3367NL router to extend the wireless coverage!
But, before that, I'll like to show my recent casing-swap for the W150D ... did I tell you that the 'old' casing has poor ventilation ... it's a WIP ... currently using internal antenna I soldered ... works well ... just lighting and sticker work remains ... though I might leave it as it is since it's only a 'backup' router (runs on a portable dvd li-ion rechargeable battery during load-shedding)
Coming back to the topic, there are a number of ways to accomplish what we need:
1. 'Universal' Method (using Ethernet/LAN Cable)
This method should work with almost all adsl routers turning them into wireless access points! One tiny annoying thing could be the constantly blinking led that shows line sync but some tape can take care of that! So, here is an overview (if you want to try for other routers)
- connect router to your device via lan/ethernet cable for configuration
- configure wireless settings like security
- disable all sorts of security features like firewall and intrusion detection
- finally disable dhcp server (you'll have to use static IP if you want to configure again)
- disconnect, place it where you want and connect to your other router via LAN/Ethernet cable
- as wireless and lan switch are bridged internally, the adsl router should now function as a WAP (Wireless Access Point)
For the W150D/SP3367NL, the steps can be:
1. Reset the router by holding the reset push button on the back until it reboots! Login to the router and proceed to Advanced Settings!
2. Delete all default connection settings (Optional)
3. Change the Router LAN IP Address to not conflict with the one of your main router! I have changed mine from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.2.2! Also, make a note of this IP address as we'll need it if we have to configure the router again or if we have to change a setting later on!
4. Configure the Wireless Settings as you wish! Be sure to also set the Security Settings!
Advanced: You may try to set the SSID the same as your main router and see if roaming works or not!
5. Advanced Wireless Settings (Optional)
6. Finally, disable the DHCP server!
7. You may reboot the router and your PC/device as well! Also, connect the LAN cable from the main router to any one of the LAN ports on this router
8. There you go! With a suitably long lan/ethernet cable you may be able to extend wireless coverage to any area of your house/office/building!
Caution: 'Common' LAN/Ethernet is not designed for outdoor use and you need to use the cable designed specifically for outdoor use! Also, study up on isolating the earth if you use power from separate building(s)!
Now, to check the wireless connectivity:
It works! Now, you may proceed to power the router at your desired location and just connect it via lan/ethernet cable to your main router!
If you have to change anything, you'll have to use static IP addresses (easy method):
1. You'll have to connect the router to your device (prefer wired connection)! Then, goto your Network Adapter Settings:
2. Assign Static IP address! Be sure to use the router's IP address from Step 3 above as the Gateway IP!
3. You should be able to make changes now!
There you have it ... one method to extend your wireless coverage with a spare W150D/SP3367NL (or any other adsl router even if you follow the general idea)!
2. As a Wireless Router (using Ethernet/LAN Cable)
The W150D/SP3367NL router can be configured as a wireless router using one of the LAN ports as a WAN port! We can use this mode to extend the wireless coverage when using a ethernet/lan cable connected to the 'main' router!
In order to do this, follow these steps except in Step 8, select IPoE and use either Automatic IP address (when main router is running DHCP server) or Static IP (when you have to manually configure Gateway and IP)
Continue to configure as needed (defaults are ok)
Finally, apply to save settings and reboot to confirm!
One may also turn off the firewall on the 'secondary' router as the 'main' router will handle all incoming traffic with its own firewall!
Please note that you may use a different ip range/subnet to isolate users of the two devices! In this case, you may leave the firewall on!
3. As a Wireless Bridge
This is the most 'convenient' way to extend coverage if you have an extra W150D/SP3367NL and cannot use the ethernet/lan cable, at the cost of throughput and added latency!
Now the manual says that this functionality is based upon WDS so it may work with other routers supporting WDS! However, WDS often works for same devices and it is best to use 2 same model (and revision) routers!
Another point to note is that WDS usually works with WEP only! It is often recommended to start with no wireless security first and to enable security once everything is working well!
(I am waiting for another W150D/SP3367NL and I shall add any other info once I test this function)
For the 'second' router, connect via ethernet/lan cable to configure and
1. Select the 'Wireless Bridge' from the wireless settings menu:
2. Here, select the wireless bridge mode from the drop-down menu! Keep bridge restrict mode enabled and either enter the MAC address of the main router or select Enabled (Scan) to select the main router from list of scanned routers broadcasting their signals!
3. The wifi SSID, channel and security must match with those of the 'main' router! As mentioned previously, test without security at first and then enable WEP!
Note: Once the secondary router is configured as a Wireless Bridge, only the wired clients shall be able to connect as the W150D/SP3367NL supports 'pure' bridge mode and does not support AP+Client or Repeater Mode(s)!
Hope this helps!
Source:
- User's Manual for SP3367NL
As per another request, I shall try to use a spare W150D/SP3367NL router to extend the wireless coverage!
But, before that, I'll like to show my recent casing-swap for the W150D ... did I tell you that the 'old' casing has poor ventilation ... it's a WIP ... currently using internal antenna I soldered ... works well ... just lighting and sticker work remains ... though I might leave it as it is since it's only a 'backup' router (runs on a portable dvd li-ion rechargeable battery during load-shedding)
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1. 'Universal' Method (using Ethernet/LAN Cable)
This method should work with almost all adsl routers turning them into wireless access points! One tiny annoying thing could be the constantly blinking led that shows line sync but some tape can take care of that! So, here is an overview (if you want to try for other routers)
- connect router to your device via lan/ethernet cable for configuration
- configure wireless settings like security
- disable all sorts of security features like firewall and intrusion detection
- finally disable dhcp server (you'll have to use static IP if you want to configure again)
- disconnect, place it where you want and connect to your other router via LAN/Ethernet cable
- as wireless and lan switch are bridged internally, the adsl router should now function as a WAP (Wireless Access Point)
For the W150D/SP3367NL, the steps can be:
1. Reset the router by holding the reset push button on the back until it reboots! Login to the router and proceed to Advanced Settings!
(To continue reading, please click on 'Read More')
2. Delete all default connection settings (Optional)
3. Change the Router LAN IP Address to not conflict with the one of your main router! I have changed mine from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.2.2! Also, make a note of this IP address as we'll need it if we have to configure the router again or if we have to change a setting later on!
4. Configure the Wireless Settings as you wish! Be sure to also set the Security Settings!
Advanced: You may try to set the SSID the same as your main router and see if roaming works or not!
5. Advanced Wireless Settings (Optional)
6. Finally, disable the DHCP server!
7. You may reboot the router and your PC/device as well! Also, connect the LAN cable from the main router to any one of the LAN ports on this router
8. There you go! With a suitably long lan/ethernet cable you may be able to extend wireless coverage to any area of your house/office/building!
Caution: 'Common' LAN/Ethernet is not designed for outdoor use and you need to use the cable designed specifically for outdoor use! Also, study up on isolating the earth if you use power from separate building(s)!
Now, to check the wireless connectivity:
If you have to change anything, you'll have to use static IP addresses (easy method):
1. You'll have to connect the router to your device (prefer wired connection)! Then, goto your Network Adapter Settings:
2. Assign Static IP address! Be sure to use the router's IP address from Step 3 above as the Gateway IP!
3. You should be able to make changes now!
There you have it ... one method to extend your wireless coverage with a spare W150D/SP3367NL (or any other adsl router even if you follow the general idea)!
2. As a Wireless Router (using Ethernet/LAN Cable)
The W150D/SP3367NL router can be configured as a wireless router using one of the LAN ports as a WAN port! We can use this mode to extend the wireless coverage when using a ethernet/lan cable connected to the 'main' router!
In order to do this, follow these steps except in Step 8, select IPoE and use either Automatic IP address (when main router is running DHCP server) or Static IP (when you have to manually configure Gateway and IP)
Finally, apply to save settings and reboot to confirm!
One may also turn off the firewall on the 'secondary' router as the 'main' router will handle all incoming traffic with its own firewall!
Please note that you may use a different ip range/subnet to isolate users of the two devices! In this case, you may leave the firewall on!
3. As a Wireless Bridge
This is the most 'convenient' way to extend coverage if you have an extra W150D/SP3367NL and cannot use the ethernet/lan cable, at the cost of throughput and added latency!
Now the manual says that this functionality is based upon WDS so it may work with other routers supporting WDS! However, WDS often works for same devices and it is best to use 2 same model (and revision) routers!
Another point to note is that WDS usually works with WEP only! It is often recommended to start with no wireless security first and to enable security once everything is working well!
(I am waiting for another W150D/SP3367NL and I shall add any other info once I test this function)
For the 'second' router, connect via ethernet/lan cable to configure and
1. Select the 'Wireless Bridge' from the wireless settings menu:
3. The wifi SSID, channel and security must match with those of the 'main' router! As mentioned previously, test without security at first and then enable WEP!
Note: Once the secondary router is configured as a Wireless Bridge, only the wired clients shall be able to connect as the W150D/SP3367NL supports 'pure' bridge mode and does not support AP+Client or Repeater Mode(s)!
Hope this helps!
Source:
- User's Manual for SP3367NL
i tried to set client at zero and also to hide but nothing stop this wvap, going to try 2nd option
ReplyDeleteanother issue is that after upgrade into micronet firmware router being too much hot, i feel it may burn at some time due to extra powering to wifi. plz help me regarding this also??????????
Hello Again Mudassir!
ReplyDelete1. I told you that it would still show up with first method but nobody would be able to join the network!
If you do the second method, it shall disable the guest SSID and the SSID interface should show N/A for it!
The guest/multiple SSID is a useful feature and can be used to share your connection with guests without using same key as your main one and guests can be isolated from your network as well!
So, if you need it in future, just set the Enabled bit from 0 to 1
2. Wrt heat ... that was one of the original reasons I started looking for alternative firmware! The router runs hot and the bad ventilation in the case does not help! In fact, I know one person's wifi chip overheated (fried) by putting the router on some clothes temporarily! That router had PTCL's 'original' firmware installed!
What you can do is to keep it in a well ventilated area or if you are upto it, just attach a small heatsink to it or perhaps add a small fan (9V power can be taken internally)!
I have posted the telnet commands regarding wireless power, but, these are temporary till next reboot/power-cycle!
One extra bit of info is that almost all the UK/EU routers (most manuf in China) I have got, comply with the UK/EU wifi power rules and tend to use 16.5dbm (under 20dbm max) while providing good range! I don't know about these Tenda/PTCL ones for sure but some people get a headache when 2 are switched on in the same room!!!
could you please extract the wlctl command lines menu
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ReplyDeleteHi!
If you look at the bottom section, it is for wlctl:
Click Here!
Regards,
Ahmed
im asking too much but what else i can do..anyway
ReplyDeleteenter those commands and tell me if it gives you errors and post a screenshot of the telnet board and gui after done
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>wlctl up
>wlctl ssid -C 0 xxx
>wlctl channel 6
>wlctl closed 0
>wlctl country FR
>wlctl wep 0
>wlctl auth 0
>save
>reboot
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the output must be a open network.
thanks before
@"Unlimited illegal Games"
ReplyDeleteHello Again!
Are you having any problems with those commands? You do know that the commands shall have no effect after you issue the reboot as there is no way (currently) to save the wireless settings across reboots for this particular model!
Regards,
Ahmed
you didnt get it...
ReplyDeleteim asking you to try it out
and tell me the results by screenshots
thanks
And I am telling you that your sequence is wrong from just looking at it! The wireless needs to be down before you can make changes to the SSID and channel and such!
ReplyDeleteI'll post screenshots later when I reconnect the router with wlctl status in-between the commands so that you may judge their effect! Or would you prefer putty's log?
Regards,
Ahmed
you mean to be lie this?
ReplyDelete___________
>wlctl down
>wlctl ssid -C 0 xxx
>wlctl channel 6
>wlctl closed 0
>wlctl country FR
>wlctl wep 0
>wlctl auth 0
>wlctl up
>save
>reboot
Hello Again!
ReplyDeleteYes like that! Here is what I tried with my limited time:
BCM96328 Broadband Router
Login: admin
Password:
> wlctl status
SSID: "Default"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -76 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 40MHz (0x2d08)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 ]
> wlctl up
> wlctl status
SSID: "Default"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -76 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 40MHz (0x2d08)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 ]
> wlctl ssid -C 0 test
Setting SSID: "test"
wlctl: Not down
>
> wlctl down
>
>
> wlctl ssid -C 0 test
Setting SSID: "test"
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -76 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 40MHz (0x2d08)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 ]
>
> wlctl channel 6
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -76 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 40MHz (0x2d08)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 ]
> wlctl channel 8
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -76 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 40MHz (0x2d08)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 ]
> wlctl up
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -76 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 6 20MHz (0x2b06)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ]
> wlctl channel 8
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -78 dBm Channel: 6
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 6 20MHz (0x2b06)
Control channel: 6
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ]
> wlctl down
> wlctl channel 8
> wlctl up
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -77 dBm Channel: 8
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 20MHz (0x2b08)
Control channel: 8
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ]
... continues
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>
> wlctl closed 0
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -79 dBm Channel: 8
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 20MHz (0x2b08)
Control channel: 8
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ]
> wlctl country
CN (CN/0) CHINA
> wlctl country FR
> wlctl country
FR (FR/1) FRANCE
> wlctl country GB
> wlctl country
GB (GB/1) UNITED KINGDOM
>
>
> wlctl wep 0
wlctl: Unsupported
> wlctl auth 0
> wlctl status
SSID: "test"
Mode: Managed RSSI: 0 dBm SNR: 0 dB noise: -78 dBm Channel: 8
BSSID: AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA Capability: ESS ShortSlot
Supported Rates: [ 1(b) 2(b) 5.5(b) 6 9 11(b) 12 18 24 36 48 54 ]
802.11N Capable:
Chanspec: 2.4GHz channel 8 20MHz (0x2b08)
Control channel: 8
802.11N Capabilities:
Supported MCS : [ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ]
> save
config saved.
>
Config is lost on reboot!
could you please try this out
ReplyDelete"mac filter"
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> wlctl macmode 2
> wlctl mac 00-11-22-33-44-66